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Author Topic: Advice Required need advice for a new jet ski  (Read 9715 times)

Offline ihsan

Advice Required need advice for a new jet ski
« on: June 29, 2017, 02:28:13 PM »
hi guys,

after braking enough bones and losing enough points on my license, i thought it would be a good idea to switch to jet skiing from motorbiking. but i'm so new to this, i'm not sure which ski is the one for me.

i'm a 43 year old, 100kg male busdriver and so far my weekend hobby has been my motorbike.

i have read a lot about what people say about pwcs, and everyone seems to give advice about which model is good for whom, but i think it's best to ask the local people, as they also know about the local waterways, australian laws as well as what type of jet skis there are on the market.

seadoo seems to be the leading brand when it comes to jet skis, so being new to all this, i thought it would be safe to go with the crowd.

i've already got my boat & jet ski license, and so far i have only been on 1 ride with jet ski safaris (apart from the day i got my license) and it was one of the best experiences i've ever had.

i have a good amount in reserve to invest in the jet ski, but i still don't want to spend $30,000 on a new hobby and i'm sure whatever i buy will feel very fast, at least at first. my worry is that i don't want to get bored of it too quickly. there's also the issue if i buy something very fast, there's no room to grow for my next jet ski, or i might be overwhelmed with all the power and get scared and cool off.

between my partner and myself we have 3 kids and we will be towing them on tubes. also my partner (55kg) is a surfer and she's very interested in wake boarding / water skiing.

first of the many questions that i'm sure will follow:

i can't decide between a gti90, wake 155 or something supercharged  dno (i understand it's quite a broad range from 90hp to 200+, but as i said i'm very new)

local law questions:
do i need a spotter when i'm towing a wakesurfer?
do i need a spotter while i'm towing the kids in the tube?
can we be 2 adults on a 3 seater jet ski and 2 kids in the tube?

thank you
ihsan

Offline Dirk

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 07:33:52 PM »
Hi Ihsan, I trust you're not planning on getting more points. There are plenty of interesting characters on the waterways already giving us a bad name. So, benefit of the doubt  dno

I suggest a supercharged model. You need the towing power. I personally would not go above 210 hp. Some in the forum might have a different view if they also do what you want to do. I've seen skis with less power struggle in difficult conditions and get frustrated - without towing anyone.

I suppose most of us are happy with the choice they've made at the time. Unfortunately, no one will be able to tell you what's best for you. You can get a lemon from every brand at the end of the day. I'm happy with my Seadoo, everyone else is happy with their Kwaka/Yama (don't know why  cl). Have a chat with Mandy and pop by her shop. She'll might have a good second hand model that is reliable if she says it's good to go.

As to your question abut the local laws - yes you need spotters. I trust that was covered whilst getting your license?

Good luck with your choice.

Cheers,
Dirk


Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 08:15:25 PM »
I didn't know you guys had a bad reputation, we always look at you with admiration. Rest assured I'm not planning on hooning with the new jet ski. I'll probably just go on group rides with my partner and explore the waterways.

Thank you for the advice.

Offline David & Megan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 08:56:10 PM »
Re Wake Boarding:  When you get serious about serious wake boarding you will find a jetski very inadequate, no wake and to fast and way to light. Slow is the key on smooth water and lots of weight.
The wake is where it is at, great fun and challenging.
Jetski can be fun though for learners.


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Offline johno

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Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 06:04:09 PM »
Hey mate. The tube and boat/ski are separate vessels so if u got a three person ski and a three person tube, you can take 6 ppl around no worries.

Have you ridden any of these skis? The 155 wake will no doubt pull the tube with 3 kids. Id say the 90 would seriously struggle with 2 adults on board and three kids on the tube.

Id consider throwing the fxho into the mix as well. Stable, reliable, economical to own. Boring styling and a bit plain jane to ride, but strong performance from the engine.  Undoubtedly less fun to ride than seadoos S3 hull but heaps of guys like them as a great all rounder.
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Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »
The tube and boat/ski are separate vessels so if u got a three person ski and a three person tube, you can take 6 ppl around no worries.

That's great news. I thought we had to have enough room on the jet ski to accommodate tubers in case something goes wrong with the tube.

Have you ridden any of these skis? 

We have ridden (ok so we say "ride" a jet a ski) gts90 when we hired one from jet ski safaris and what i think was a gti90 (it had iBR) when we were getting our license. both seemed very fast to us (but we have nothing to compare). With no helmet, i'm sure every jet ski would feel very fast.

Id consider throwing the fxho into the mix as well.

we visited the gold coast yamaha dealer, twice. the first time we were approached by a salesman. he just asked how much budget we have, and showed the model that fits into that price range. the second time we went there, the salesmen were busy on the phone and the finance lady helped us. she explained what each model have/do, starting from the very basic model. she was a lot more helpful than the salesman we had the time before. that day i made up my mind on the fx but now i know seadoo is the leading brand and i will feel more comfortable a common/popular jet ski so i will be safer if i have trouble with it or have any questions; and if i need accessories, there will be plenty.

however everytime we walked into jsw, although there were also other customers in the showroom, no salesperson were helping anyone, they seemed to be busy either staring at their computers, or chatting with each other. so maybe i'll call ahead before i go there next time.



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Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 10:28:57 AM »
Ok mate well good luck with all the mental gyrations. Its a great sport, I know you'll love it. Remember 95% of the time that you're on the water, your hull and ability determine how fast you ride.

There are so many fantastic places to ride, boredom just wont be a factor, if youre prepared to be adventurous. See ya out there sometime brpvyam
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Offline mackst

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Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 11:05:51 AM »
Have you considered Kawasaki? I initially decided on a seadoo, but went and looked at kawasaki and bought 1. Absolutely love it.


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Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 02:01:08 PM »
Have you considered Kawasaki?

i haven't... but you're right i should go a see the kawasakis up close, and talk to a salesperson.

just like you did, i'm sure i'm gonna love what i have once i buy one.

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Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2017, 07:02:07 PM »
Yeah right on! For me it was the perfect fit!!


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Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2017, 07:03:29 PM »
Oh a tip see Brisbane kawasaki ask for Jamie could do enough for me even delivered the ski to me in Ashmore on a Friday night!!


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Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 06:49:52 AM »
Oh a tip see Brisbane kawasaki ask for Jamie could do enough for me even delivered the ski to me in Ashmore on a Friday night!!

will do for sure.

is there any such thing as a test ride when you're buying a jet ski?

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Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 12:12:52 PM »
Absolutely


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Offline David & Megan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 05:26:56 PM »
hi guys,

after braking enough bones and losing enough points on my license, i thought it would be a good idea to switch to jet skiing from motorbiking. but i'm so new to this, i'm not sure which ski is the one for me.

i'm a 43 year old, 100kg male busdriver and so far my weekend hobby has been my motorbike.

i have read a lot about what people say about pwcs, and everyone seems to give advice about which model is good for whom, but i think it's best to ask the local people, as they also know about the local waterways, australian laws as well as what type of jet skis there are on the market.

seadoo seems to be the leading brand when it comes to jet skis, so being new to all this, i thought it would be safe to go with the crowd.

i've already got my boat & jet ski license, and so far i have only been on 1 ride with jet ski safaris (apart from the day i got my license) and it was one of the best experiences i've ever had.

i have a good amount in reserve to invest in the jet ski, but i still don't want to spend $30,000 on a new hobby and i'm sure whatever i buy will feel very fast, at least at first. my worry is that i don't want to get bored of it too quickly. there's also the issue if i buy something very fast, there's no room to grow for my next jet ski, or i might be overwhelmed with all the power and get scared and cool off.

between my partner and myself we have 3 kids and we will be towing them on tubes. also my partner (55kg) is a surfer and she's very interested in wake boarding / water skiing.

first of the many questions that i'm sure will follow:

i can't decide between a gti90, wake 155 or something supercharged  dno (i understand it's quite a broad range from 90hp to 200+, but as i said i'm very new)

local law questions:
do i need a spotter when i'm towing a wakesurfer?
do i need a spotter while i'm towing the kids in the tube?
can we be 2 adults on a 3 seater jet ski and 2 kids in the tube?

thank you
ihsan
$30k thats one kick #ss budget.
U can get a good ski for under $10k with all the tubes jackets you will need.
If you don't like it or like it and don't use it at least you can sell it fir around the cost you bought it for.
If love it buy another and have 2!


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Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 10:46:21 PM »

$30k thats one kick #ss budget.

it was just a figure of speech. i'm not gonna spend 30k for a jet ski. i wish i could :(

Offline TheKiwi

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 10:41:39 PM »
I recently purchased a new '16 Kawasaki 310r and I absolutely love it. I used to love the acceleration on the sports bikes and this thing would out accelerate most bikes I've owned previously (although top speed is drastically reduced).

I strongly recommend Brisbane Kawasaki at Geebung.

But as others have said, everyone has their personal preference. I went with the 310r because it claimed to be the fastest which is what I wanted. This in combination with Jaime @ Brisbane Kawasaki was great- no pressure, straight up price over the phone and gave me confidence.,other dealers refused to give pricing over phone and seemed reluctant to give final price or delivery date. Plus all forums for warranty claims on the Kawasaki seemed very positive.

Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 12:00:53 AM »
I recently purchased a new '16 Kawasaki 310r and I absolutely love it.

TheKiwi i'm glad to see your reply here. i currently ride a Triumph Street Triple R and i love how it accelerates, and how it corners. you just look where you want to go and the bike goes there.

what bike did you have? for me top speed doesn't mean anything but i love a nimble, torquey bike. it sounds like you're not missing your bike with the jet ski that you have. now i'm wondering do i also need such a powerful machine after my motorbike?

it will be very difficult to replace my bike with anything else, but it sounds like a jet ski is a safer toy. at the very least you can easily run away from idiot drivers, and if you get thrown off it, you land in the water :) no road rash, no broken bones. you run over a soda can while taking a corner and you can say goodbye to your bike - it's either off the hill or under the truck coming towards you.

i was gonna ask you to be my ride buddy when i get my jet ski but now i know i would slow you down. i'm thinking max 230hp (even a 90hp spark is on my list)

cheers

Offline TheKiwi

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2017, 11:55:26 PM »
Hey ihsan,

Ive had a few bikes but over the last few years I had a CBR600rr and a Suzuki Boulevard. Earlier I had a CBR900 as well. I really wanted a Daytona 675 but couldn't afford it at the time. The street triple r look awesome and by all accounts go like the clappers... if you love torque you'll love the supercharged skis...the best thing I love about the 310r is that the power is instantaneous and it just keeps pulling and pulling and pulling until the computer takes over and says its time to back off at 110kph. Brings a smile to my face every time. I took a friend of the family for a ride a month or so ago who has 9-10sec cars, and he reckons the initial pull on the ski is harder hitting than his cars. I'd love to test the 0-100kph/60mph time.

It all depends on what you want to do on the ski. For me it was ocean riding in the waves/chop as well as days at the lake with my family. I needed to be able to take 2kids under 12 and 2 adults. So it needed to be big enough to take us all whilst being a stable and reliable boat. I also wanted to pull a tube/skier on the odd occasion. I also wanted a good dealer and goood warranty support because if this thing ever blows up, I'm gonna cop an earful from the wife and the good warranty support should halt/slow the divorce ;)

But there's plenty of options out there. Budget and use are probably the biggest dictator of what options are available.

But if you love acceleration you'll love the supercharged skis. It's rare you'll want less HP, but you'll nearly always want more HP. The great thing about the skis is that my 310r will cruise along happily at 30kph just as it will at 110kph.

I'd say it's similar to choosing between bikes-  Dirt bike (Think Seadoo Spark/Kawasaki stf150) vs road bike (SVHO/310 etc). Either way you'll be having a heap of fun albeit at a higher monetary cost (I offset this by saying the whole family can join in as opposed to a bike where it's just me :))

haha although I would probably choose to come off a ski at 100kph as opposed to a bike, I think you can still expect some broken bones and bruises either way- the water gets bloody hard at those speeds!

I'd be more than happy to be a ride buddy mate- going as a group is great fun regardless of what skis are going! im sure the rest of the forum will back me up on that!

Offline ihsan

Re: need advice for a new jet ski
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2017, 04:22:21 AM »
I had a CBR600rr and a Suzuki Boulevard

i assume one just for yourself and one for both you and the missus. Nice.

good warranty support should halt/slow the divorce

 cl

the whole family can join in as opposed to a bike where it's just me
very smart :)

I'd be more than happy to be a ride buddy mate- going as a group is great fun regardless of what skis are going! im sure the rest of the forum will back me up on that!

Thanks mate. i completely agree with you that going as a group is more sensible than going out just by yourself. and although my goal is to come back home safely, my aim is to have FUN. on the motorbike, one rider can ruin the fun for everyone behind him/her and i definitely do not want to be "that guy" on the jet ski. sure exploring places you've never been before, watching the scenery, and getting fresh mountain air is nice and all but that's not the reason you're there for and you can do all that with your car too. it's all about the adrenaline and i don't think jet ski will be any different. somebody said "it's all about the hull and your riding ability"and i respect that.

TheKiwi how long did it take for you to get comfortable with your new jet ski after the motorbike? was it difficult to let go of your biking habits and accept that you're now riding a whole new machine? or do you think it made it easier for you to adept *because* of your motorbike history.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2017, 07:29:33 AM by ihsan »


 

 

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